- Companies Are Psychopaths and Don't Care About You

Companies Are Psychopaths and Don't Care About You

From AMA on Twitch w/ @roxkstar74: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKxyHAB948s
Roxkstar74: Yeah. I think that's like part of the really interesting world of software is that you kinda get to the point where a lot of people feel, like a lot of companies will ask you to be passionate about what you...
From AMA on Twitch w/ @roxkstar74: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKxyHAB948s
Roxkstar74: Yeah. I think that's like part of the really interesting world of software is that you kinda get to the point where a lot of people feel, like a lot of companies will ask you to be passionate about what you do. Just the level of making it, which when hiring for a job, kinda ask. Kinda super ask. But when actually doing stuff for yourself has such absurd benefits.

Pieter Levels: Dude, companies are psychopaths. They are completely sociopath, sociopathic, psychopathic. Like I know 'cause I went to business school. I have an MBA there. They don't have any loyalty to you as a human, especially on an America where there's less labor protection done in Europe. There's no loyalty from companies. So why should you be loyal to companies? Fuck companies. Man, you know what fucked me up about it? Like American corporate culture is a startup culture. It's this whole, we're family, we're like happy family, team photos, team activities. Dude, that's really creepy, that's a lock-in gimmick. Because if you get fired, you lose your whole social life. That means you can't negotiate salary because you have no negotiation power anymore. It's a reductionist negotiating power because you're too locked into the company through a company culture being so good and stuff. Dude, companies are sociopaths and you should treat them like that. They pay you money, you work for them. That's it. And man, in startups, they really try to abuse that and feel like, and it's very dodgy and dark because nobody talks about that. They don't show that. It looks all positive, but it's not positive, it's kinda creepy. Company is not your family. Company, they pay you, that's it. Unless you're an owner, you get shares because it's co-op. And yeah, right?

It's interesting. 'Cause like, I don't know, it's such a great line. 'Cause ideally--

Well, it's so good marketing like, oh we have like amazing Skippy balls. You can sit on and you know, whatever the fuck with ping pong tables. And I know that's two for the sake. There's more shit now. Benefits are good. Health care, dental, but yeah, they do try and lock you in and you should be passionate about your own career trajectory not passion for the company. Who cares about the company? Like, I mean yeah, you should do the things that are good in your job, in your job description. But I don't know, yeah. I'm not a communist, but I do believe in co-op and the concept of like that there should be some kinda like shared ownership and revenue share, profit share or something. It's unfair that a capitalist owner, and I'm a capitalist for sure, but that a capitalist owner, capital owner and a company owner takes all the, reaps all the rewards. They should reap a lot of rewards because they did all the risk taking as entrepreneurs for sure. But once employees get into the picture, I believe it's fair at a day, reap also the rewards of the results of the company, not just salary. I would be for a system where you can get less salary, but you can get shares in a company or something. I mean, that's what startups do. That's kinda like equity, but you don't see it in normal jobs. Like you work in supermarkets, you don't really get ownership of the supermarket. I don't know, I feel it should be more fair.

Yeah, I know, my brother is a game designer and he works at a company that does profit sharing. So everybody gets a cut. So how successful the game is directly influences how much they get bonus wise.

Yeah, cool, yeah. Yeah, that's nice.

It gives them much more ownership over what they do. And I think--

Then it makes sense to say, okay, are you passionate about the company? Yeah, I'm passionate because we're gonna make money. I'm gonna make money too.

I think the thing is, the question is always, how do they make you care? And that's the big thing. And some people will care on the mission. Super ideal. But a lot of people that talk to me, talk to me because they say, well, you're working on local business. I'm passionate about local business. I wanna help you. And people offer to do stuff for free for me all the time because of that. But ideally, if I were to hire somebody, I would want someone who gives that much of a crap 'cause I know I'm gonna get way better work out of them 'cause they're going to feel that--

That makes sense. But I mean, they don't have passion for your company. They have passion for that general industry.

Exactly.

But that's fine. Especially for remote work. So yeah, that's fine.

And so I think that's like the more ideal version of it where you want to care about the company only as much as you care about the problem that they solve.

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2021年01月05日 
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Sondre ():Welcome to building remotely, the podcast where we talk with founders and leaders, of remote companies. Together with them we aim to uncover hidden insights that you can use when building startup remotely I'm your host, Sondre, the founder and CEO of SafetyWing, a Y-Combinator backed startup, building a global social safety net. Let's begin. - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Sondre ():Welcome to building remotely, the podcast where we talk with founders and leaders, of remote companies. Together with them we aim to uncover hidden insights that you can use when building startup remotely I'm your host, Sondre, the founder and CEO of SafetyWing, a Y-Combinator backed startup, building a global social safety net. Let's begin.

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Pieter (Intro) ():Everything we do that is following our lizard brain is not going to make us happy. - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Pieter (Intro) ():Everything we do that is following our lizard brain is not going to make us happy.

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Sondre ():In this episode, I'm joined by Peter Levels the founder of Nomad List and Remote OK. And at least for me, one of the founders of the digital nomad remote work world, as it is today. If you're listening to this podcast, you probably already know who he is. And if not, then it's about time. Together with Pieter today, I will explore what is happening with remote work, what it means for the digital nomad scene in the future. And to answer the question are all remote workers, future nomads, welcome to the podcast Peter - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Sondre ():In this episode, I'm joined by Peter Levels the founder of Nomad List and Remote OK. And at least for me, one of the founders of the digital nomad remote work world, as it is today. If you're listening to this podcast, you probably already know who he is. And if not, then it's about time. Together with Pieter today, I will explore what is happening with remote work, what it means for the digital nomad scene in the future. And to answer the question are all remote workers, future nomads, welcome to the podcast Peter

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Pieter ():Thanks for having me Sondre - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Pieter ():Thanks for having me Sondre

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Sondre ():So I first heard you speak, uh, as I was contemplating quitting my job and becoming a nomad at the DNX conference, uh, in 2015. And, uh, your talk was quite informative because you predicted a future where we had 1 billion digital nomads by 2035, by the way, I figure the economist later quoted and we have used in our pitching. Um, uh, and that was caused. you said by cheap air, travel, more freelancers, remote workers, sharing economy, better internet and other things. So looking back it's five years later now, uh, you know, we've had a lot of developments since then. Would you update your prediction? Is that where we're still heading? - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Sondre ():So I first heard you speak, uh, as I was contemplating quitting my job and becoming a nomad at the DNX conference, uh, in 2015. And, uh, your talk was quite informative because you predicted a future where we had 1 billion digital nomads by 2035, by the way, I figure the economist later quoted and we have used in our pitching. Um, uh, and that was caused. you said by cheap air, travel, more freelancers, remote workers, sharing economy, better internet and other things. So looking back it's five years later now, uh, you know, we've had a lot of developments since then. Would you update your prediction? Is that where we're still heading?

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Pieter ():I think so. Yeah, I think so. And I think it was five years ago. And then the last five years, I mean, I would say this year, a lot of, a lot of things changed regarding remote work. Uh, obviously, um, but in the last five years we've seen remote work grow like rapidly. Um, it's become the standard for startups in San Francisco, uh, just in Silicon Valley. Uh, it's, it's become, uh, like most, most, I think 70% of startup teams last year, in Silicon Valley where, uh, part or mostly remote when it started those. So it became kind of the standards. Um, and now with this year with Corona and stuff, uh, which is terrible year for everybody, I think, but remote work has risen fast and it's become really common with normal companies at regular companies because they're forced to work remotely. - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Pieter ():I think so. Yeah, I think so. And I think it was five years ago. And then the last five years, I mean, I would say this year, a lot of, a lot of things changed regarding remote work. Uh, obviously, um, but in the last five years we've seen remote work grow like rapidly. Um, it's become the standard for startups in San Francisco, uh, just in Silicon Valley. Uh, it's, it's become, uh, like most, most, I think 70% of startup teams last year, in Silicon Valley where, uh, part or mostly remote when it started those. So it became kind of the standards. Um, and now with this year with Corona and stuff, uh, which is terrible year for everybody, I think, but remote work has risen fast and it's become really common with normal companies at regular companies because they're forced to work remotely.

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Pieter ():And, you know, it's, it's not the best way to, uh, get in touch with remote work. I think because it's kind of forced upon people rights. Uh, but the reality is that they are working remotely. Now they're working from home and, uh, five years ago into the presentation about 1 billion digital nomads. Um, my definition of digital nomad was a remote working person who would work, um, away from their home country, at least part of the year. So it wasn't like the traditional definition of digital nomads, which is like, you know, bouncing around from city to city every week. And I don't know any anybody that actually does that. And I've said it multiple times, like people go crazy if you, if you do that. Um, but the realistic, realistic definition of digital would be somebody living, uh, part part of the year, working remotely from another country than in their home country. - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Pieter ():And, you know, it's, it's not the best way to, uh, get in touch with remote work. I think because it's kind of forced upon people rights. Uh, but the reality is that they are working remotely. Now they're working from home and, uh, five years ago into the presentation about 1 billion digital nomads. Um, my definition of digital nomad was a remote working person who would work, um, away from their home country, at least part of the year. So it wasn't like the traditional definition of digital nomads, which is like, you know, bouncing around from city to city every week. And I don't know any anybody that actually does that. And I've said it multiple times, like people go crazy if you, if you do that. Um, but the realistic, realistic definition of digital would be somebody living, uh, part part of the year, working remotely from another country than in their home country.

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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Pieter ():And I think that's what we're seeing now happening, um, in America does not zoom-towns. I read the New York times as a new word zoom towns, and which means that, um, people working remotely, uh, are moving to smaller towns, booking Airbnbs there, um, a lot of students, kids in, in America, maybe Europe tutor, booking Airbnbs and living together because their entire course is not online and they're doing it remotely. So I would say, you know, I got a lot of flack for that prediction of 1 billion because it's kind of, you know, it's extreme, but I would say now a lot of people are like, ah, maybe, maybe he was pretty close because it's, it's only 2020. We still have 15 years to go. Uh, I think we can, we can hit one billion for sure. - How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate

Pieter ():And I think that's what we're seeing now happening, um, in America does not zoom-towns. I read the New York times as a new word zoom towns, and which means that, um, people working remotely, uh, are moving to smaller towns, booking Airbnbs there, um, a lot of students, kids in, in America, maybe Europe tutor, booking Airbnbs and living together because their entire course is not online and they're doing it remotely. So I would say, you know, I got a lot of flack for that prediction of 1 billion because it's kind of, you know, it's extreme, but I would say now a lot of people are like, ah, maybe, maybe he was pretty close because it's, it's only 2020. We still have 15 years to go. Uh, I think we can, we can hit one billion for sure.

How Remote Work Will Let Millions of People Relocate
2020年11月06日 
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